Unsure if this is the right place to post, but what the hell.
Are they legit MDs? The smaller programs outside of the Big 4 are so widely bad and have a match rate around 30%. More on this later. Pre-medical students might be considering Caribbean medical schools as a way to become a U.S. doctor.
It's like that for a reason. Now the actual match rate doesn't exist because SGU doesn't want you to know, but there's a HUGE disconnect between students who enter, students who actually are enrolled in the program, students who match, and students who SOAP into something.
Other programs have way lower match/placement rates. In 2013 SGU had around a 66% match rate for US-IMGs. Someone with a Step 1 in the 250s is applying family medicine from a Carib top 4 and only received 5 interviews. They had over 860 residency placements in 2017. God asks the Physician Assistant: "And what do you believe in?"
https://bit.ly/34W3OLx Meaning 60% of students matched AT ALL. I'll answer throughout the day tomorrow if anybody wants to know anything about med school, Caribbean life, and whatever else.
Here are how IMGs are fairing getting interviews. I was on an internal medicine rotation at a county hospital in our city, and this resident told me that he went to a "top 10" under grad program, didn't mention the name, and that he had multiple MD and DO acceptances but chose to go to the carribean because "Adventure." There’s just something about it… it’s only 5 square miles, a dot in the ocean, and you can hardly locate it on a map of the Caribbean, let alone a map of the world. The Cayman Islands have St. Matthew's medical school that has an impressive 31.8% match rate. I matriculated right out of undergrad. A lot of people focus on the match % and the overall numbers that they completely neglect where these students are matching and in what fields. Actually yes, they are legit as in you get an MD that you may practice in the US with.
I think the school skews the numbers somewhat, but I have only heard of a handful not matching into something so far.
The medical schools of Saint Kitts and Nevis have a match rate of 45%. He paints a far bleaker picture than it really is. Reminds me of when someone in my family sobbed at Match day because she "only" matched to a mid-tier University IM program. You won't get into the most prestigious programs, but you are competitive for a wide array, especially if you do well and have social skills. Saba Medicine School began working in the year 1992, and since the time that time; it is known to be outstanding amongst other clinical universities for Canadian and U.S. understudies. It is not likely, but it is possible if you bust your ass. Not only that, but some of these schools are in the 30-40% range OVERALL. Also this post is about offshore medical schools in the Caribbean, not the regional medical schools that are for Caribbean people meant to practice in the Caribbean. St. George's has a 3.4/27 average... scores that to me would seem to be competitive for DO. Now whether they can get into a US DO is uncertain-- I have seen many people, including one of my friends, who was perfectly competitive for DO opt to go to a Carib MD chasing the MD. You can definitely make a quality medical education happen for yourself here, but you'll be working at it much harder than if you went to the mainland. And this is SGU , one of, if not the "top" carib MD program. The big 4 properly teach, especially Saba in my opinion and our clinical hospitals regularly praise Saba as some of their best students as we are self sufficient and hard working. I want ER but may have to go IM or IM/ER and switch in.
Let's get some perspective. Worst comes to worst, I fake my death and tend bar in south america. Physician Assistant: "I believe in practicing within my scope as an assistant to the physician." If 952 students enter, but each class has an average size of 1300, and only 610 match with another 250sh SOAPing, that's not looking so hot. Here is a famous blog by a Caribbean student.
That's not even considering the students that drop out or are dismissed before graduating. Press J to jump to the feed. Then again, I don't think anybody every truly is. Read up on what a claimed 99% match rate means for Ross University. At the end of the day it's up to us here at r/premed to give a warning and information and you as an individual to make an informed risk. and etc. You need sleep consolidation to learn, and on top of that you cannot take exams on medschool level sleep deprived, you'll fail out and you'll be $100,000 in debt.
And like I've mentioned with my friend above, there have been students here landing prestigious residencys. Also, did you matriculate directly out of your undergrad program? We also had a student do well here their first year and apply to med schools in the states and got accepted into a US med school as a transfer. Well that's odd, it states their starting class is in Fall 2016 is 952 which includes BOTH start dates as in 2009 each class started with around 430 students with the number increasing. With the admin change in Ross, their class size is in the 3-400 range these days and the fail rate is huge. Antigua and Barbuda have two Carib MD schools that have a combined match rate of 46%. Don't do it. It's widely known that a lot of what makes a Carib school really hard is they have insane checkpoints you must hit to even sit for USMLE or other benchmarks.
I had a 3.7 GPA I believe in undergrad with a 33S MCAT. "Scored a competitive job as a physician scribe in Minneapolis" LMAO.
Whatever you do, do not do EdInvest loans, they are a massive scam. I attend Saba University. This guy is r/iamverysmart material at its finest. You tell me that's not better.
I'm a student down in the Caribbean at the moment. Here are how IMGs are fairing getting interviews.
Tuition is as posted on the saba website, but living costs vary depending on what city I am doing my rotation in. Saba had always fascinated me and ever since coming to medical school, I knew this was one of the islands I definitely wanted to visit before I left. I will try to be unbiased but quick disclaimer: I am NOT a fan of these for-profit schools and so my post will inevitably be anti-Carib MD. So out of 952 students, on average 350 of them are taking at least 1 extra year to get through the program. I would estimate SGU has around a 40-50% match rate and a 55-66% overall residency placement from students who start to students who actually end up in residency. etc. Are you concerned about finding a residency in the US? Imagine that.. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I am rotating through clinicals now and not a single resident or attending cares what school I'm from, only the caliber of my work. Hey there, this Carl and a professional lecturer or a blogger for medical education. Press J to jump to the feed. Here's my disclaimer so don't bring it up. What was it like living & studying there? I was well prepared for my exams and for clinicals I feel, but what you put in is what you get out.
Not a day goes by I don’t wake up wishing I was dumb – that way at least I would deserve being demoted to primary care." The sad thing is i've met a couple carrib students that talk like this. That would be interesting. As well as admissions process, fees and other interesting facts and detail. That guy at the Million Dollar Mistake blog wasn't that smart or he would've been able to make something "better" happen for himself (I use the term "better" lightly - I don't think primary care is actually worse than or beneath the other specialties. Technically, you can tell people you went to medical school in the Netherlands. St. George's is considered one of the top Carib MDs, how do they perform and match? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. That previous paragraph being said, you can make it happen down in the Caribbean, but if you party hard or think that it's gonna be easier than a US medical school I wouldn't recommend even trying, because the odds are against you and you'll waste so much money. Saba Medicine School began working in the year 1992, and since the time that time; it is known to be outstanding amongst other clinical universities for Canadian and U.S. understudies. It's dramatic and he's a pretentious douchebag but it's worth a read. If your study skills are still terrible (which is why a lot of people end up in the Caribbean, they either had shit study habits or had serious personal problems such as a family issue that took awhile to overcome) then enroll into a class that will help you hone the best way to study BEFORE you get here.
The concern is there, but it drives me to do better. in the first sentence he goes "as a budding activist it makes sense to be a physician", but then talks about how he wants the big money and job security of a doctor. Ok so not too bad when you consider the 952 number. And that's of the students that are STILL there.
DOs have a 99% placement rate between ACGME and AOA residencies.
SGU has 5200 students enrolled, for an average of 1,300 students per year.
There are 1,400 students unaccounted for. Pretty much every American ever. I'm already aware.
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